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Ingemar Lundgren
04-25-2006, 01:37 AM
Posting an old article about CF Liljevalch. This is my "house wreck" being located outside my home town and the wreck responsible for making me pursue Trimix diving. We where searching for two summers and finally found it in 1995 at 65m depth. After a couple of "interesting" air dives we quickly decided to seek out Trimix training with Jarrod Jablonsky in Florida. We regularly run charters on this wreck. It is a great dive with lots of interesting details. Keep in mind that some of the information in this article is out dated.

C F L I L J E V A L C H

Russian submarine sinks Swedish merchant ship, 33 dead

On August 14,1942 the Swedish merchant ship CF Liljevalch departed from the Swedish port Luleå heading for Germany loaded with 6000 tons of iron ore, vital to the German war machinery.
Russian submarines operated along the Swedish coast with the mission to intercept and cut the iron ore shipment to Germany.

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CF Liljevalch was leading a convoy of 16 ships of Swedish, German, Finish, and Dutch nationality. The convoy was escorted by 3 Swedish destroyers and a patrol ship. At 14.50 on the 18th of august 1942 the convoy passed "Kungsgrundet" (a beacon far out in the open sea) outside the town of Västervik. They were well inside Swedish territorial waters.
Captain Bramfjord who had been a captain for 35 years was just about to be served tea in the saloon when suddenly the aft lookout, Nils Gustafsson reported "torpedo on port side!".

The pilot immediately ordered full starboard rudder, but it was to late, the ship was hit by two torpedoes. The first under the bridge and the second between the 3rd and 4th cargo space. The explosions did terrible damage on the ship. Iron ore and wood fragments shot to the sky and rained down on the ship and killed many. The steamer CF Liljevalch sunk in 30 seconds.
Only seven of the 40 men aboard could bee saved. Many had been dragged down by the powerful vortexes that appeared when the ship sank. Sailor Nils Gustafsson survived and could witness one of the worst ship catastrophe that had hit Sweden during the war. The escorting destroyers immediately ordered the convoy to halt and a smoke screen was laid around the ships. About 40 depth charges was droped in the area. The squadron leader stated in his report that he had sunk a submarine. But after researching Russian war archives that has been recently available it is evident that the Russian submarine L3, that claimed the sinking was in active service at many occasions later in the war.
CF liljevalch rests in 70 meters of water about a mile from where the Swedish ship SS Luleå was sunk only a month earlier. The Russians had at that time sunk a total of 4 ships claiming 69 casualties. At the end of the war the figure would rise to 203.
Swedish divers finds Liljevalch at 70 meters depth in the Baltic sea
A group of divers from Baltic Sea Technical Divers (BSTD) found the wreck of the Swedish merchant ship CF Liljevalch in the summer of 1996. The wreck stands upright at a depth of 70m about 3 miles south of "Kungsgrundet" outside the town of Västervik.

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The search commenced the whole summer and with the help of a sidescan sonar they were at last able to locate the wreck. Several dives have already been made, with the purpose to explore and photograph the wreck. Nothing has been salvaged and there is no future plans on salvage either. She lies prettiest as she is, says one of the divers Sigmund Lundgren. The wreck will be used for technical diver training (Trimix). Trimix divers from abroad is invited to come dive this pristine and beautiful wreck next summer. "It felt awesome to reach the deck of Liljevalch after descending 65 meters trough the dark", says Richard Lundgren who was the first man on the wreck. "It's like a time machine, suddenly you are transported 50 years back in time, and you can feel that a terrible catastrophe has occurred here". One can clearly see the damage caused by the torpedoes, midships the iron plating is torn apart and the aft section is broken in two, rising up at an angle of 45 degrees from the bottom. Penetration has sofar been limited to the Captains saloon and a few cabins.

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Because of the depth the ship lies in total darkness even during daytime. But with good lights the visibility is over 20m wich is considered good in the Baltic sea. There is a thin layer of very light silt on the wreck so it is vital to employ cave diving techniques if the visibility is to remain good. The wreck is remarkably intact inspite of over 50 years on the bottom, probably due to the depth and the constantly low water temperatures. The divers diving the wreck are trained in USA by IANTD instructors Jarrod Jablonski and Tom Mount. They are diving on mixed gas down to 100 meters in the Baltic sea. In warmer water with better visibility it is possible to reach even deeper depth with sustained safety, says one of the divers Ingemar Lundgren, but the conditions here is not comparable with for example Florida rather more like the Great Lakes.

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Bottom times has typically been 30 min. with maximum depth between 50 and 60 meters. Decompression time is around an hour using oxygen and EAN50. Water temperature at depth is 3C, and the divers are therefore using Argon for suit inflation. "Right now we are video documenting the wreck wich takes a lot of time due to the relatively short bottom times and sometimes poor weather conditions", say the divers from BSTD.

Photos by Ingemar Lundgren
Text by Anders Jallai

Ingemar Lundgren
04-25-2006, 01:47 AM
BTW, a Russian submarine may have been sunk outside Västervik. I have some documents supporting this including log books from a Swedish navy ship claiming to have dropped depth charges virtually on the deck of a submarine. Oil where coming up from the place of "sinking" for days after and navy divers even dived the area looking for the wreck. I have the search area that the navy used somewhere in my paper pile. I don´t remember if it was supposed to have been the submarine sunk after the Liljevalch raid or not. I have to go find those log books.

Martin Quensel
04-25-2006, 10:39 AM
BTW, a Russian submarine may have been sunk outside Västervik. I have some documents supporting this including log books from a Swedish navy ship claiming to have dropped depth charges virtually on the deck of a submarine. Oil where coming up from the place of "sinking" for days after and navy divers even dived the area looking for the wreck. I have the search area that the navy used somewhere in my paper pile. I don´t remember if it was supposed to have been the submarine sunk after the Liljevalch raid or not. I have to go find those log books.

Yes you really must find them. When you do, you drop me a call, and then we should search for it.

Tulle
04-25-2006, 04:47 PM
Yes you really must find them. When you do, you drop me a call, and then we should search for it.

I was logged in, a wrighting a long answer in english, but when a puched the "skicka svar" button, the site tells me that I'm not inlogged, and the whole text was lost!
So now I must calm down, and get back to you... I can tell you so much, that it is "prof" of that there is no submarine outside Västervik...:(

Ingemar Lundgren
04-25-2006, 08:53 PM
Looking forward to that Tulle.

Tulle
04-27-2006, 07:31 PM
Now, lets try again…

The 11th of July 1942 the swedish cargoship “M/S Luleå” was sunk at “Kungsgrundet” outside Västervik, Sweden. It was loaded with 7660 tons of iron ore. It was a torpedo who hit the ship midships, and it sunk in just 2 minutes.
“M/S Luleå” was a big ship 120 meters long and 8855 tons...

Now to the “prof”...

My grandfather worked in the swedish navy for 30 years, and this day he was a signalist on the escortship “Snapphanen”. Together with her sistership “Kaparen” and a destroyer, they was escort to the convoy “Luleå” belonged to.
He told me that they saw two torpedos coming in the water, but the first one missed the target. But the other one did it’s job, and hit “Luleå” just front of midships, in the second cargohold.
It started to sink with the bow first, and the crew of “Luleå” was climbing in the mast, helping each other to reach the top. When the ship had stopped sinking and was standing on the bottom, the crew was still haning in the mast, just over the surface.
“Snapphanen” quickly rescued the survivors, and my grandfather pulled a wet crewmen up on the deck. He had a survivalsuit on, but in the hurry he didn’t had time to close the zipper, so the suit was filled with water.

“Snapphanen” and “Kaparen” dropped together 26 depthcharges, and the seabottom was thrown up in the air! Then they saw whirls in the water, and up comes a submarin stern, and it quickly decend again. After a while, debris started to come up from the depth, and soon oil was on the surface.
Cocky and proud, all the swedish sailors cheered, they have sunk a submarine!

The oilstain on the surface was still there after 3 weeks, and they was sure that they sunk the submarine. After dives on “Luleå”, swedish mariedivers found torpedoparts with russian text on it. So now they know that it was a russian submarine.
The information of this “event” was classified by the swedish navy, and my grandfather and his navyfriends was left thinking they have sunk a russian submarine.

My grandfather is today 86 years old, and a couple of years ago, a irritated grandson to him (read me) come to visit, and show him pictures of a sunken russian submarine in the “Gulf of Åland”. –“This is the submarine S7, who sunk the “Luleå”, the iriitated grandson said. –“It was the finnish navy who sunk it”, he continued... , -“So, Bertil (my grandfathers name), you didn’t sunk that submarine you thoght”.

That concludes the theory of a sunken submarine outside Västervik, the russian “S7” pulled a prank on my grandfather and his friends, and got away.... for two years... but you never know, maybe there was two submarines???? J

Tulle
05-01-2006, 10:08 PM
When CF Liljevalch sunk, the ship S/S Hermod was in the same convoy. Hermod saved some of the crew from Liljevalch.
And only the year after, 1943, the 13th of mars, S/S Hermod meet the same faith as Liljevalch. It was torpeded outside "Terschelling", Holland, and sunk. In opposite to Liljevalch, "Only" 4 people died...

And here is a picture of S/S Hermod:

Ingemar Lundgren
05-02-2006, 12:11 AM
Thanks for the Info Tulle. I remember it was the "Kaparen" log book i had a copy of. I did not know it was the S7 that was involved though. I did the research regarding the presumably sunk sub before the discovery of the S7. The Russians seems to be hopelessly inaccurate in there historical reports from WW2 though.

Tulle
05-02-2006, 08:50 PM
Ingemar, klick on this link: http://www.abc.se/~m10354/uwa/s7.htm

It's little info of "S7". You can also find on the web info about the finnish navy capture the captain of "S7". Then they give him to the Germans, and there he confess that "S7" sunk "Margareta" and "Luleå"...:eek: